Read/Only access to Northwind database

Hi;
This is one of those things I want to be 100% sure to get right because we
are opening this user to the world.
How do I create a user in SqlServer that has read/only access to Northwind.
No access to any other database and only R/O access to Northwind?
thanks - dave
david_at_windward_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com
see the "too much free time video" - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htmTry:
1) Create a login
2) Add the login as a user to the Northwind database
3) Add the user to the db_datareader fixed database role
Be sure that you remove the guest user, if present.
Tom
----
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SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
.
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Hi;
This is one of those things I want to be 100% sure to get right because we
are opening this user to the world.
How do I create a user in SqlServer that has read/only access to Northwind.
No access to any other database and only R/O access to Northwind?
thanks - dave
david_at_windward_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com
see the "too much free time video" - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm|||Hi;
I had it set to public & db_datareader because it won't let me deselect
public. Is this correct or am I missing something?
Also, what do you mean by "fixed database"?
thanks - dave
david_at_windward_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com
Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm
"Tom Moreau" wrote:

> Try:
> 1) Create a login
> 2) Add the login as a user to the Northwind database
> 3) Add the user to the db_datareader fixed database role
> Be sure that you remove the guest user, if present.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> ..
> "David Thielen" <thielen@.nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:6F943F7E-D5A6-495F-8EAD-EE3199777575@.microsoft.com...
> Hi;
> This is one of those things I want to be 100% sure to get right because we
> are opening this user to the world.
> How do I create a user in SqlServer that has read/only access to Northwind
.
> No access to any other database and only R/O access to Northwind?
> --
> thanks - dave
> david_at_windward_dot_net
> http://www.windwardreports.com
> see the "too much free time video" - [url]http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm[/ur
l]
>
>|||Hi Dave,
I think you've done it right and haven't miseed anything. The public role
is a special database role to which every database
user belongs. The public role contain default access permissionsfor any
user who can access the database. This database role cannot
be dropped.
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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.|||A "fixed database role" is one that is there by default and cannot be
removed. There are also fixed server roles. You can create your own
database roles, too. However, you cannot create server roles.
Tom
----
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SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
.
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Hi;
I had it set to public & db_datareader because it won't let me deselect
public. Is this correct or am I missing something?
Also, what do you mean by "fixed database"?
thanks - dave
david_at_windward_dot_net
http://www.windwardreports.com
Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm
"Tom Moreau" wrote:

> Try:
> 1) Create a login
> 2) Add the login as a user to the Northwind database
> 3) Add the user to the db_datareader fixed database role
> Be sure that you remove the guest user, if present.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> ..
> "David Thielen" <thielen@.nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:6F943F7E-D5A6-495F-8EAD-EE3199777575@.microsoft.com...
> Hi;
> This is one of those things I want to be 100% sure to get right because we
> are opening this user to the world.
> How do I create a user in SqlServer that has read/only access to
> Northwind.
> No access to any other database and only R/O access to Northwind?
> --
> thanks - dave
> david_at_windward_dot_net
> http://www.windwardreports.com
> see the "too much free time video" -
> http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm
>
>

Read Text file from SqlServer

Hi Frinds,

I have the text file in my server.

Is it possible to read the text file and insert into table via sql server stored procedure.

yes. You can use BCP or BULK INSERT to do the job. Refer to Books Online for more details. http://search.live.com/macros/sql_server_user_education/booksonline

Read information from transaction log

Hi,
I am a beginner in SQL/RDBMS and learning the different nuances of the SQL
Server. I know that all activities in a database are stored in a transaction
log and I can see where the file is stored. My question is how do I read any
information from a transaction log?
For example I delete a row manually in the Enterprise Manager (which I
should not have deleted), how do I Rollback that delete or how do I read the
transaction log to see what has happened and reverse that action.
Any help will be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Aditya.There isn't a documented method to read transaction log data. You can get
some info by using undocumented commands like DBCC LOG. A better method is
with a third party tool like Lumigent's Log Explorer www.lumigent.com.

quote:

---

> For example I delete a row manually in the Enterprise Manager (which I
> should not have deleted), how do I Rollback that delete or how do I read

---

the

quote:

---

> transaction log to see what has happened and reverse that action.

---

If you are running in the FULL or BULK_LOGGED recovery model, you can backup
the current transaction log, restore the database (to a different name if
you want to keep the existing database intact) and then apply your
transaction log backups up to the point of the delete. See the Books Online
for more information.
Hope this helps.
Dan Guzman
SQL Server MVP
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quote:

---

> Hi,
> I am a beginner in SQL/RDBMS and learning the different nuances of the SQL
> Server. I know that all activities in a database are stored in a

---

transaction

quote:

---

> log and I can see where the file is stored. My question is how do I read

---

any

quote:

---

> information from a transaction log?
> For example I delete a row manually in the Enterprise Manager (which I
> should not have deleted), how do I Rollback that delete or how do I read

---

the

quote:

---

> transaction log to see what has happened and reverse that action.
> Any help will be highly appreciated.
> Thanks in advance
> Aditya.
>

---

|||Hi Aditya
Dan answered your question about reading the log.
For rollback, there is no way to do it from Enterprise Manager. Each insert,
update and delete is auto-committed.
The only alternative is to use a query tool like query analyzer, and use a
BEGIN TRANSACTION before any changes, and then if you're satisified with the
change you can COMMIT TRANSACTION, if you're not, you can ROLLBACK
TRANSACTION.
HTH
--
Kalen Delaney
SQL Server MVP
www.SolidQualityLearning.com
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quote:

---

> Hi,
> I am a beginner in SQL/RDBMS and learning the different nuances of the SQL
> Server. I know that all activities in a database are stored in a

---

transaction

quote:

---

> log and I can see where the file is stored. My question is how do I read

---

any

quote:

---

> information from a transaction log?
> For example I delete a row manually in the Enterprise Manager (which I
> should not have deleted), how do I Rollback that delete or how do I read

---

the

quote:

---

> transaction log to see what has happened and reverse that action.
> Any help will be highly appreciated.
> Thanks in advance
> Aditya.
>

---

|||Just to comment on both Dan and Kalen's posts, Log Explorer will allow you
to generate SQL commands to redo or undo a specific transaction. That comes
in handy sometimes when developers have direct access to production
databases.
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
CareerBuilder.com
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quote:

---

> Hi,
> I am a beginner in SQL/RDBMS and learning the different nuances of the SQL
> Server. I know that all activities in a database are stored in a

---

transaction

quote:

---

> log and I can see where the file is stored. My question is how do I read

---

any

quote:

---

> information from a transaction log?
> For example I delete a row manually in the Enterprise Manager (which I
> should not have deleted), how do I Rollback that delete or how do I read

---

the

quote:

---

> transaction log to see what has happened and reverse that action.
> Any help will be highly appreciated.
> Thanks in advance
> Aditya.
>

---

|||Hi,
Thank you all for your posts. I will try them and get back if I have any
other queries.
Thanks again.
Aditya.
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quote:

---

> Hi,
> I am a beginner in SQL/RDBMS and learning the different nuances of the SQL
> Server. I know that all activities in a database are stored in a

---

transaction

quote:

---

> log and I can see where the file is stored. My question is how do I read

---

any

quote:

---

> information from a transaction log?
> For example I delete a row manually in the Enterprise Manager (which I
> should not have deleted), how do I Rollback that delete or how do I read

---

the

quote:

---

> transaction log to see what has happened and reverse that action.
> Any help will be highly appreciated.
> Thanks in advance
> Aditya.
>

---

|||There is also LogPi: http://www.logpi.com/
--
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Epprecht Consulting (PTY) LTD
Johannesburg, South Africa
Mobile: +27-82-552-0268
IM: mike@.NOSPAMepprecht.net
Specialist SQL Server Solutions and Consulting
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quote:

---

> Hi,
> Thank you all for your posts. I will try them and get back if I have any
> other queries.
> Thanks again.
> Aditya.
> "Aditya" <grafica@.md2.vsnl.net.in> wrote in message
> news:O2CkJSq4DHA.2888@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
SQL[QUOTE]
> transaction
> any
> the
>

---

|||Hi,
Still I like to known the internal format from the transactionlog. I can't
find it on the internet.
Greetz.
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quote:

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> There is also LogPi: http://www.logpi.com/
> --
> --
> Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
> Epprecht Consulting (PTY) LTD
> Johannesburg, South Africa
> Mobile: +27-82-552-0268
> IM: mike@.NOSPAMepprecht.net
> Specialist SQL Server Solutions and Consulting
> "Aditya" <grafica@.md2.vsnl.net.in> wrote in message
> news:%23KzpPsz4DHA.2696@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> SQL
read[QUOTE]
read[QUOTE]
>

---

|||It is not published. Possibly, if you sign such an agreement that these
vendors has signed with MS, you can get your hands on it. Assuming that such
an agreement does exists for the structure of the t-log, of course. These
vendors might have reverse-engineered the log structure the hard way.
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
Archive at:
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=...ublic.sqlserver
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quote:

---

> Hi,
> Still I like to known the internal format from the transactionlog. I can't
> find it on the internet.
> Greetz.
>

---

sql

Reach SqlServer located another server

Hi,

I have a asp.net website and bind it with sqlserver but this sqlserver is located another server different from the server my website is located. So how can i bind them with eachother.

Thanks in advance...

Fine, just specify that server name (which is diffrent than the server where your web application in) in the connection string:

Server=YourDatabaseServerName;Database=YourDatabaseName;User ID= YourUserID; Password=YourPassword

Check out his for more examples:www.connectionstrings.com

Good luck.

|||

Thanks my friend but i am sorry i forgot to ask my another question about how to connect database if it is different from sqlserver (i mean it can be oracle or something else) located another server.

Thanks in advance again...!

|||

Just visit the link I posted:http://www.connectionstrings.com/

and click on the database that you are using (e.g. Oracle -> usehttp://www.connectionstrings.com/?carrier=oracle ).

Good luck.

Reaading and Processing a Recordset from Com object

Hi everybody.

I need help with the next topic.

From a stored procedure in sqlserver, I need to call a com+ dll, this dll connect ot another database diferent to sqlserver y return this dll must return to stored procedure a recordser for ther processing.

I tried with sp_OACreate, sp_OAMethod, sp_OAGetProperty but I did not know how to process a recordset

Thanks

Erik

You can return the recordset data as a multi-dimensional array and this will be streamed to the client. You can use INSERT...EXEC on the server-side to capture the results into a temporary table for example. You can't return the recordset object directly since SQL Server will not know how to process it. See sp_OAMethod topic in BOL for more details.

RDA Pull Error table

My dev environment: VS2005, SQLServer Mobile, SQLServer 2005 server db, PPC windows app.

Having a problem with pull. First pull works fine. I request an error table from the pull. When I need to repull, I drop the table, but if I try to programmatically delete the error table, I get the message that the table has restricted DDL operations allowed. Apparently Drop is not allowed. Sometimes dropping the main table deletes the error table, sometimes it doesn't. If I try to repull and the error table is there, the pull fails.

I've tried "flushing" my cache by closing my connection and reopening, but that doesn't work.

Any ideas?

I have a similar problem--I have primary key indexes on the table I'm trying to pull which DONT go away when the table is dropped. I can't delete them because they give me the same "restricted DDL operations" error, and the pull fails when they are around.

I posted about it a while back, but never did get a reasonable response. Right now I'm deleting my entire database each time I do a pull, which is a very ham-fisted way of doing it, and it's awful slow. Unfortunately, no one else seems to be able to help...

-Kevin

|||

Just to narrow down the problem can you do the following:

Before dropping the main table can you soft-reset the device and drop the main table? I am really interested to know the root cause of the problem. Also please note that, just clicking ok on any device app does not actually close the app but pushes it to background. To termainte the app, you need to go to Start Menu => Settings => System => Memory => Running Programs ==> Stop the process

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||

Whether I drop it from my program or from QA, I sometimes get the error table deleted, sometimes not. That's after a reset. I'm pretty sure I've got my app closing correctly now, which it wasn't before, but now if I look at memory as you suggest, there is no vestige of my program hanging around. I finally decided I didn't really need the error table anyway and so have excluded it from my pull arguments.

However, a related problem promises to be an even bigger headache. Occasionally, dropping the main table does not manage to delete the appropriate entries in __SysRDASubscriptions, so that when I go to pull that table again, even though the actual table has been dropped, the pull informs me that it can't upupdate __SysRDASubscriptions before of a dup entry (error 25016). And guess what, __SysRDASubscriptions is read-only, so I can't "delete from" either. The only workaround I can think of is to backup the tables I need in my .sdf, trash the original and create a new db - a big hack to say the least.

As to what causes the entry not to be deleted, sometimes the database is corrupt (.Verify returns false), but repairing doesn't take care of __SysRDASubscriptions dirty entry.

Any ideas?

|||

Can you please give your email id so that I can contact you offline for faster conversation!

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||hi Laxmi, did you get my return email or do I have to post my email address here?|||

Hi,

I have the same problem also, I am trying to delete the entry from __sysrdasubscriptions table but its coming back with read only error...any advice on how to accomplish this. What i really wanted to do is drop the table and recreate...since the deleted table is not being deleted from sysrdasubscriptions i need to do it manually...Please help...

michael

|||This happens intermittently in my app. Sometimes the delete table takes care of the sysrdasubscriptions row and sometimes it doesn't. I'm closing down my connection before I do the delete just to make sure there are no pending updates waiting, but I still get the problem. The worst part is that I can't reproduce it consistently. How about in your case - does it always fail to delete the row?|||

Hi,

In my case, when i drop the table the entries from the sysrdasubscriptions still remains consistently...it just never deleted but then when i delete the entry it comes back with an error of read only...I am not sure what to do with it...the only solution i can think of is delete the database with a drawback of becoming very slow since it will need to reproduce everything...

best regards,

michael

|||

I thought of deleting the db too but that's definitely a last resort.

|||

Hello Laxmi - did you get my response to your email.

This seems like a serious problem. Hoping you have some ideas other than deleting the database.

|||

Sorry guys I am totally lost in my work. I am really sorry about that.

Please send across the repro details along with the repro database at our BLOG http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlmobile/.

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||

Hi

I am getting the exact same problem.

Any news on a fix for this?

Regards Andrew

|||Having had ZERO help after promises and promises

from Microsoft, we finally took the hard core approach and delete the

entire database, so as to ensure the deletion of the subscriptions

info.

As usual, MS releases beta, well more like alpha, products to the

marketplace and relies on its market domination to keep even the most

disgruntled of customers in their camp. However, we have deployed

this as only a temporary solution. In three months, we will be

rearchitecting with a Java solution, with a prototype already working

more reliably than the MS ***. This was only one of many

disappointments for us from MS, and so now we are turning the corner

and going with a more reliable framework, and just better solutions in

general. Too bad MS feels that don't really have to deliver

anything of quality anymore. No wonder their stock is a dinosaur

stuck in the toilet.

Good luck to you...|||

Hi Braden,

This problem is in locating the other sql mobile dlls while dropping the table.

This problem does not appear if you have all of the following in a single directory:

1) SQL Mobile product DLLs

2) SQL Mobile tools (such as ISQLW30.EXE in case you are using it!)

3) Customer application which uses RDA

4) Any other binary that is using SQL Mobile binaries

Please be patient while we work on the problem.

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Ev, Microsoft Corporation

RDA Pull Error table

My dev environment: VS2005, SQLServer Mobile, SQLServer 2005 server db, PPC windows app.

Having a problem with pull. First pull works fine. I request an error table from the pull. When I need to repull, I drop the table, but if I try to programmatically delete the error table, I get the message that the table has restricted DDL operations allowed. Apparently Drop is not allowed. Sometimes dropping the main table deletes the error table, sometimes it doesn't. If I try to repull and the error table is there, the pull fails.

I've tried "flushing" my cache by closing my connection and reopening, but that doesn't work.

Any ideas?

I have a similar problem--I have primary key indexes on the table I'm trying to pull which DONT go away when the table is dropped. I can't delete them because they give me the same "restricted DDL operations" error, and the pull fails when they are around.

I posted about it a while back, but never did get a reasonable response. Right now I'm deleting my entire database each time I do a pull, which is a very ham-fisted way of doing it, and it's awful slow. Unfortunately, no one else seems to be able to help...

-Kevin

|||

Just to narrow down the problem can you do the following:

Before dropping the main table can you soft-reset the device and drop the main table? I am really interested to know the root cause of the problem. Also please note that, just clicking ok on any device app does not actually close the app but pushes it to background. To termainte the app, you need to go to Start Menu => Settings => System => Memory => Running Programs ==> Stop the process

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||

Whether I drop it from my program or from QA, I sometimes get the error table deleted, sometimes not. That's after a reset. I'm pretty sure I've got my app closing correctly now, which it wasn't before, but now if I look at memory as you suggest, there is no vestige of my program hanging around. I finally decided I didn't really need the error table anyway and so have excluded it from my pull arguments.

However, a related problem promises to be an even bigger headache. Occasionally, dropping the main table does not manage to delete the appropriate entries in __SysRDASubscriptions, so that when I go to pull that table again, even though the actual table has been dropped, the pull informs me that it can't upupdate __SysRDASubscriptions before of a dup entry (error 25016). And guess what, __SysRDASubscriptions is read-only, so I can't "delete from" either. The only workaround I can think of is to backup the tables I need in my .sdf, trash the original and create a new db - a big hack to say the least.

As to what causes the entry not to be deleted, sometimes the database is corrupt (.Verify returns false), but repairing doesn't take care of __SysRDASubscriptions dirty entry.

Any ideas?

|||

Can you please give your email id so that I can contact you offline for faster conversation!

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||hi Laxmi, did you get my return email or do I have to post my email address here?|||

Hi,

I have the same problem also, I am trying to delete the entry from __sysrdasubscriptions table but its coming back with read only error...any advice on how to accomplish this. What i really wanted to do is drop the table and recreate...since the deleted table is not being deleted from sysrdasubscriptions i need to do it manually...Please help...

michael

|||This happens intermittently in my app. Sometimes the delete table takes care of the sysrdasubscriptions row and sometimes it doesn't. I'm closing down my connection before I do the delete just to make sure there are no pending updates waiting, but I still get the problem. The worst part is that I can't reproduce it consistently. How about in your case - does it always fail to delete the row?|||

Hi,

In my case, when i drop the table the entries from the sysrdasubscriptions still remains consistently...it just never deleted but then when i delete the entry it comes back with an error of read only...I am not sure what to do with it...the only solution i can think of is delete the database with a drawback of becoming very slow since it will need to reproduce everything...

best regards,

michael

|||

I thought of deleting the db too but that's definitely a last resort.

|||

Hello Laxmi - did you get my response to your email.

This seems like a serious problem. Hoping you have some ideas other than deleting the database.

|||

Sorry guys I am totally lost in my work. I am really sorry about that.

Please send across the repro details along with the repro database at our BLOG http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlmobile/.

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||

Hi

I am getting the exact same problem.

Any news on a fix for this?

Regards Andrew

|||Having had ZERO help after promises and promises

from Microsoft, we finally took the hard core approach and delete the

entire database, so as to ensure the deletion of the subscriptions

info.

As usual, MS releases beta, well more like alpha, products to the

marketplace and relies on its market domination to keep even the most

disgruntled of customers in their camp. However, we have deployed

this as only a temporary solution. In three months, we will be

rearchitecting with a Java solution, with a prototype already working

more reliably than the MS ***. This was only one of many

disappointments for us from MS, and so now we are turning the corner

and going with a more reliable framework, and just better solutions in

general. Too bad MS feels that don't really have to deliver

anything of quality anymore. No wonder their stock is a dinosaur

stuck in the toilet.

Good luck to you...|||

Hi Braden,

This problem is in locating the other sql mobile dlls while dropping the table.

This problem does not appear if you have all of the following in a single directory:

1) SQL Mobile product DLLs

2) SQL Mobile tools (such as ISQLW30.EXE in case you are using it!)

3) Customer application which uses RDA

4) Any other binary that is using SQL Mobile binaries

Please be patient while we work on the problem.

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Ev, Microsoft Corporation

RDA Pull Error table

My dev environment: VS2005, SQLServer Mobile, SQLServer 2005 server db, PPC windows app.

Having a problem with pull. First pull works fine. I request an error table from the pull. When I need to repull, I drop the table, but if I try to programmatically delete the error table, I get the message that the table has restricted DDL operations allowed. Apparently Drop is not allowed. Sometimes dropping the main table deletes the error table, sometimes it doesn't. If I try to repull and the error table is there, the pull fails.

I've tried "flushing" my cache by closing my connection and reopening, but that doesn't work.

Any ideas?

I have a similar problem--I have primary key indexes on the table I'm trying to pull which DONT go away when the table is dropped. I can't delete them because they give me the same "restricted DDL operations" error, and the pull fails when they are around.

I posted about it a while back, but never did get a reasonable response. Right now I'm deleting my entire database each time I do a pull, which is a very ham-fisted way of doing it, and it's awful slow. Unfortunately, no one else seems to be able to help...

-Kevin

|||

Just to narrow down the problem can you do the following:

Before dropping the main table can you soft-reset the device and drop the main table? I am really interested to know the root cause of the problem. Also please note that, just clicking ok on any device app does not actually close the app but pushes it to background. To termainte the app, you need to go to Start Menu => Settings => System => Memory => Running Programs ==> Stop the process

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||

Whether I drop it from my program or from QA, I sometimes get the error table deleted, sometimes not. That's after a reset. I'm pretty sure I've got my app closing correctly now, which it wasn't before, but now if I look at memory as you suggest, there is no vestige of my program hanging around. I finally decided I didn't really need the error table anyway and so have excluded it from my pull arguments.

However, a related problem promises to be an even bigger headache. Occasionally, dropping the main table does not manage to delete the appropriate entries in __SysRDASubscriptions, so that when I go to pull that table again, even though the actual table has been dropped, the pull informs me that it can't upupdate __SysRDASubscriptions before of a dup entry (error 25016). And guess what, __SysRDASubscriptions is read-only, so I can't "delete from" either. The only workaround I can think of is to backup the tables I need in my .sdf, trash the original and create a new db - a big hack to say the least.

As to what causes the entry not to be deleted, sometimes the database is corrupt (.Verify returns false), but repairing doesn't take care of __SysRDASubscriptions dirty entry.

Any ideas?

|||

Can you please give your email id so that I can contact you offline for faster conversation!

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||hi Laxmi, did you get my return email or do I have to post my email address here?|||

Hi,

I have the same problem also, I am trying to delete the entry from __sysrdasubscriptions table but its coming back with read only error...any advice on how to accomplish this. What i really wanted to do is drop the table and recreate...since the deleted table is not being deleted from sysrdasubscriptions i need to do it manually...Please help...

michael

|||This happens intermittently in my app. Sometimes the delete table takes care of the sysrdasubscriptions row and sometimes it doesn't. I'm closing down my connection before I do the delete just to make sure there are no pending updates waiting, but I still get the problem. The worst part is that I can't reproduce it consistently. How about in your case - does it always fail to delete the row?|||

Hi,

In my case, when i drop the table the entries from the sysrdasubscriptions still remains consistently...it just never deleted but then when i delete the entry it comes back with an error of read only...I am not sure what to do with it...the only solution i can think of is delete the database with a drawback of becoming very slow since it will need to reproduce everything...

best regards,

michael

|||

I thought of deleting the db too but that's definitely a last resort.

|||

Hello Laxmi - did you get my response to your email.

This seems like a serious problem. Hoping you have some ideas other than deleting the database.

|||

Sorry guys I am totally lost in my work. I am really sorry about that.

Please send across the repro details along with the repro database at our BLOG http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlmobile/.

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||

Hi

I am getting the exact same problem.

Any news on a fix for this?

Regards Andrew

|||Having had ZERO help after promises and promises from Microsoft, we finally took the hard core approach and delete the entire database, so as to ensure the deletion of the subscriptions info.
As usual, MS releases beta, well more like alpha, products to the marketplace and relies on its market domination to keep even the most disgruntled of customers in their camp. However, we have deployed this as only a temporary solution. In three months, we will be rearchitecting with a Java solution, with a prototype already working more reliably than the MS ***. This was only one of many disappointments for us from MS, and so now we are turning the corner and going with a more reliable framework, and just better solutions in general. Too bad MS feels that don't really have to deliver anything of quality anymore. No wonder their stock is a dinosaur stuck in the toilet.
Good luck to you...
|||

Hi Braden,

This problem is in locating the other sql mobile dlls while dropping the table.

This problem does not appear if you have all of the following in a single directory:

1) SQL Mobile product DLLs

2) SQL Mobile tools (such as ISQLW30.EXE in case you are using it!)

3) Customer application which uses RDA

4) Any other binary that is using SQL Mobile binaries

Please be patient while we work on the problem.

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Ev, Microsoft Corporation

RDA Pull Error table

My dev environment: VS2005, SQLServer Mobile, SQLServer 2005 server db, PPC windows app.

Having a problem with pull. First pull works fine. I request an error table from the pull. When I need to repull, I drop the table, but if I try to programmatically delete the error table, I get the message that the table has restricted DDL operations allowed. Apparently Drop is not allowed. Sometimes dropping the main table deletes the error table, sometimes it doesn't. If I try to repull and the error table is there, the pull fails.

I've tried "flushing" my cache by closing my connection and reopening, but that doesn't work.

Any ideas?

I have a similar problem--I have primary key indexes on the table I'm trying to pull which DONT go away when the table is dropped. I can't delete them because they give me the same "restricted DDL operations" error, and the pull fails when they are around.

I posted about it a while back, but never did get a reasonable response. Right now I'm deleting my entire database each time I do a pull, which is a very ham-fisted way of doing it, and it's awful slow. Unfortunately, no one else seems to be able to help...

-Kevin

|||

Just to narrow down the problem can you do the following:

Before dropping the main table can you soft-reset the device and drop the main table? I am really interested to know the root cause of the problem. Also please note that, just clicking ok on any device app does not actually close the app but pushes it to background. To termainte the app, you need to go to Start Menu => Settings => System => Memory => Running Programs ==> Stop the process

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||

Whether I drop it from my program or from QA, I sometimes get the error table deleted, sometimes not. That's after a reset. I'm pretty sure I've got my app closing correctly now, which it wasn't before, but now if I look at memory as you suggest, there is no vestige of my program hanging around. I finally decided I didn't really need the error table anyway and so have excluded it from my pull arguments.

However, a related problem promises to be an even bigger headache. Occasionally, dropping the main table does not manage to delete the appropriate entries in __SysRDASubscriptions, so that when I go to pull that table again, even though the actual table has been dropped, the pull informs me that it can't upupdate __SysRDASubscriptions before of a dup entry (error 25016). And guess what, __SysRDASubscriptions is read-only, so I can't "delete from" either. The only workaround I can think of is to backup the tables I need in my .sdf, trash the original and create a new db - a big hack to say the least.

As to what causes the entry not to be deleted, sometimes the database is corrupt (.Verify returns false), but repairing doesn't take care of __SysRDASubscriptions dirty entry.

Any ideas?

|||

Can you please give your email id so that I can contact you offline for faster conversation!

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||hi Laxmi, did you get my return email or do I have to post my email address here?|||

Hi,

I have the same problem also, I am trying to delete the entry from __sysrdasubscriptions table but its coming back with read only error...any advice on how to accomplish this. What i really wanted to do is drop the table and recreate...since the deleted table is not being deleted from sysrdasubscriptions i need to do it manually...Please help...

michael

|||This happens intermittently in my app. Sometimes the delete table takes care of the sysrdasubscriptions row and sometimes it doesn't. I'm closing down my connection before I do the delete just to make sure there are no pending updates waiting, but I still get the problem. The worst part is that I can't reproduce it consistently. How about in your case - does it always fail to delete the row?|||

Hi,

In my case, when i drop the table the entries from the sysrdasubscriptions still remains consistently...it just never deleted but then when i delete the entry it comes back with an error of read only...I am not sure what to do with it...the only solution i can think of is delete the database with a drawback of becoming very slow since it will need to reproduce everything...

best regards,

michael

|||

I thought of deleting the db too but that's definitely a last resort.

|||

Hello Laxmi - did you get my response to your email.

This seems like a serious problem. Hoping you have some ideas other than deleting the database.

|||

Sorry guys I am totally lost in my work. I am really sorry about that.

Please send across the repro details along with the repro database at our BLOG http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlmobile/.

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||

Hi

I am getting the exact same problem.

Any news on a fix for this?

Regards Andrew

|||Having had ZERO help after promises and promises from Microsoft, we finally took the hard core approach and delete the entire database, so as to ensure the deletion of the subscriptions info.
As usual, MS releases beta, well more like alpha, products to the marketplace and relies on its market domination to keep even the most disgruntled of customers in their camp. However, we have deployed this as only a temporary solution. In three months, we will be rearchitecting with a Java solution, with a prototype already working more reliably than the MS ***. This was only one of many disappointments for us from MS, and so now we are turning the corner and going with a more reliable framework, and just better solutions in general. Too bad MS feels that don't really have to deliver anything of quality anymore. No wonder their stock is a dinosaur stuck in the toilet.
Good luck to you...
|||

Hi Braden,

This problem is in locating the other sql mobile dlls while dropping the table.

This problem does not appear if you have all of the following in a single directory:

1) SQL Mobile product DLLs

2) SQL Mobile tools (such as ISQLW30.EXE in case you are using it!)

3) Customer application which uses RDA

4) Any other binary that is using SQL Mobile binaries

Please be patient while we work on the problem.

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Ev, Microsoft Corporation

RDA Pull Error table

My dev environment: VS2005, SQLServer Mobile, SQLServer 2005 server db, PPC windows app.

Having a problem with pull. First pull works fine. I request an error table from the pull. When I need to repull, I drop the table, but if I try to programmatically delete the error table, I get the message that the table has restricted DDL operations allowed. Apparently Drop is not allowed. Sometimes dropping the main table deletes the error table, sometimes it doesn't. If I try to repull and the error table is there, the pull fails.

I've tried "flushing" my cache by closing my connection and reopening, but that doesn't work.

Any ideas?

I have a similar problem--I have primary key indexes on the table I'm trying to pull which DONT go away when the table is dropped. I can't delete them because they give me the same "restricted DDL operations" error, and the pull fails when they are around.

I posted about it a while back, but never did get a reasonable response. Right now I'm deleting my entire database each time I do a pull, which is a very ham-fisted way of doing it, and it's awful slow. Unfortunately, no one else seems to be able to help...

-Kevin

|||

Just to narrow down the problem can you do the following:

Before dropping the main table can you soft-reset the device and drop the main table? I am really interested to know the root cause of the problem. Also please note that, just clicking ok on any device app does not actually close the app but pushes it to background. To termainte the app, you need to go to Start Menu => Settings => System => Memory => Running Programs ==> Stop the process

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||

Whether I drop it from my program or from QA, I sometimes get the error table deleted, sometimes not. That's after a reset. I'm pretty sure I've got my app closing correctly now, which it wasn't before, but now if I look at memory as you suggest, there is no vestige of my program hanging around. I finally decided I didn't really need the error table anyway and so have excluded it from my pull arguments.

However, a related problem promises to be an even bigger headache. Occasionally, dropping the main table does not manage to delete the appropriate entries in __SysRDASubscriptions, so that when I go to pull that table again, even though the actual table has been dropped, the pull informs me that it can't upupdate __SysRDASubscriptions before of a dup entry (error 25016). And guess what, __SysRDASubscriptions is read-only, so I can't "delete from" either. The only workaround I can think of is to backup the tables I need in my .sdf, trash the original and create a new db - a big hack to say the least.

As to what causes the entry not to be deleted, sometimes the database is corrupt (.Verify returns false), but repairing doesn't take care of __SysRDASubscriptions dirty entry.

Any ideas?

|||

Can you please give your email id so that I can contact you offline for faster conversation!

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||hi Laxmi, did you get my return email or do I have to post my email address here?|||

Hi,

I have the same problem also, I am trying to delete the entry from __sysrdasubscriptions table but its coming back with read only error...any advice on how to accomplish this. What i really wanted to do is drop the table and recreate...since the deleted table is not being deleted from sysrdasubscriptions i need to do it manually...Please help...

michael

|||This happens intermittently in my app. Sometimes the delete table takes care of the sysrdasubscriptions row and sometimes it doesn't. I'm closing down my connection before I do the delete just to make sure there are no pending updates waiting, but I still get the problem. The worst part is that I can't reproduce it consistently. How about in your case - does it always fail to delete the row?|||

Hi,

In my case, when i drop the table the entries from the sysrdasubscriptions still remains consistently...it just never deleted but then when i delete the entry it comes back with an error of read only...I am not sure what to do with it...the only solution i can think of is delete the database with a drawback of becoming very slow since it will need to reproduce everything...

best regards,

michael

|||

I thought of deleting the db too but that's definitely a last resort.

|||

Hello Laxmi - did you get my response to your email.

This seems like a serious problem. Hoping you have some ideas other than deleting the database.

|||

Sorry guys I am totally lost in my work. I am really sorry about that.

Please send across the repro details along with the repro database at our BLOG http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlmobile/.

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||

Hi

I am getting the exact same problem.

Any news on a fix for this?

Regards Andrew

|||Having had ZERO help after promises and promises

from Microsoft, we finally took the hard core approach and delete the

entire database, so as to ensure the deletion of the subscriptions

info.

As usual, MS releases beta, well more like alpha, products to the

marketplace and relies on its market domination to keep even the most

disgruntled of customers in their camp. However, we have deployed

this as only a temporary solution. In three months, we will be

rearchitecting with a Java solution, with a prototype already working

more reliably than the MS ***. This was only one of many

disappointments for us from MS, and so now we are turning the corner

and going with a more reliable framework, and just better solutions in

general. Too bad MS feels that don't really have to deliver

anything of quality anymore. No wonder their stock is a dinosaur

stuck in the toilet.

Good luck to you...|||

Hi Braden,

This problem is in locating the other sql mobile dlls while dropping the table.

This problem does not appear if you have all of the following in a single directory:

1) SQL Mobile product DLLs

2) SQL Mobile tools (such as ISQLW30.EXE in case you are using it!)

3) Customer application which uses RDA

4) Any other binary that is using SQL Mobile binaries

Please be patient while we work on the problem.

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Ev, Microsoft Corporation

RDA Pull Error table

My dev environment: VS2005, SQLServer Mobile, SQLServer 2005 server db, PPC windows app.

Having a problem with pull. First pull works fine. I request an error table from the pull. When I need to repull, I drop the table, but if I try to programmatically delete the error table, I get the message that the table has restricted DDL operations allowed. Apparently Drop is not allowed. Sometimes dropping the main table deletes the error table, sometimes it doesn't. If I try to repull and the error table is there, the pull fails.

I've tried "flushing" my cache by closing my connection and reopening, but that doesn't work.

Any ideas?

I have a similar problem--I have primary key indexes on the table I'm trying to pull which DONT go away when the table is dropped. I can't delete them because they give me the same "restricted DDL operations" error, and the pull fails when they are around.

I posted about it a while back, but never did get a reasonable response. Right now I'm deleting my entire database each time I do a pull, which is a very ham-fisted way of doing it, and it's awful slow. Unfortunately, no one else seems to be able to help...

-Kevin

|||

Just to narrow down the problem can you do the following:

Before dropping the main table can you soft-reset the device and drop the main table? I am really interested to know the root cause of the problem. Also please note that, just clicking ok on any device app does not actually close the app but pushes it to background. To termainte the app, you need to go to Start Menu => Settings => System => Memory => Running Programs ==> Stop the process

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||

Whether I drop it from my program or from QA, I sometimes get the error table deleted, sometimes not. That's after a reset. I'm pretty sure I've got my app closing correctly now, which it wasn't before, but now if I look at memory as you suggest, there is no vestige of my program hanging around. I finally decided I didn't really need the error table anyway and so have excluded it from my pull arguments.

However, a related problem promises to be an even bigger headache. Occasionally, dropping the main table does not manage to delete the appropriate entries in __SysRDASubscriptions, so that when I go to pull that table again, even though the actual table has been dropped, the pull informs me that it can't upupdate __SysRDASubscriptions before of a dup entry (error 25016). And guess what, __SysRDASubscriptions is read-only, so I can't "delete from" either. The only workaround I can think of is to backup the tables I need in my .sdf, trash the original and create a new db - a big hack to say the least.

As to what causes the entry not to be deleted, sometimes the database is corrupt (.Verify returns false), but repairing doesn't take care of __SysRDASubscriptions dirty entry.

Any ideas?

|||

Can you please give your email id so that I can contact you offline for faster conversation!

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||hi Laxmi, did you get my return email or do I have to post my email address here?|||

Hi,

I have the same problem also, I am trying to delete the entry from __sysrdasubscriptions table but its coming back with read only error...any advice on how to accomplish this. What i really wanted to do is drop the table and recreate...since the deleted table is not being deleted from sysrdasubscriptions i need to do it manually...Please help...

michael

|||This happens intermittently in my app. Sometimes the delete table takes care of the sysrdasubscriptions row and sometimes it doesn't. I'm closing down my connection before I do the delete just to make sure there are no pending updates waiting, but I still get the problem. The worst part is that I can't reproduce it consistently. How about in your case - does it always fail to delete the row?|||

Hi,

In my case, when i drop the table the entries from the sysrdasubscriptions still remains consistently...it just never deleted but then when i delete the entry it comes back with an error of read only...I am not sure what to do with it...the only solution i can think of is delete the database with a drawback of becoming very slow since it will need to reproduce everything...

best regards,

michael

|||

I thought of deleting the db too but that's definitely a last resort.

|||

Hello Laxmi - did you get my response to your email.

This seems like a serious problem. Hoping you have some ideas other than deleting the database.

|||

Sorry guys I am totally lost in my work. I am really sorry about that.

Please send across the repro details along with the repro database at our BLOG http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlmobile/.

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Mobile, Microsoft Corporation

|||

Hi

I am getting the exact same problem.

Any news on a fix for this?

Regards Andrew

|||Having had ZERO help after promises and promises from Microsoft, we finally took the hard core approach and delete the entire database, so as to ensure the deletion of the subscriptions info.
As usual, MS releases beta, well more like alpha, products to the marketplace and relies on its market domination to keep even the most disgruntled of customers in their camp. However, we have deployed this as only a temporary solution. In three months, we will be rearchitecting with a Java solution, with a prototype already working more reliably than the MS ***. This was only one of many disappointments for us from MS, and so now we are turning the corner and going with a more reliable framework, and just better solutions in general. Too bad MS feels that don't really have to deliver anything of quality anymore. No wonder their stock is a dinosaur stuck in the toilet.
Good luck to you...
|||

Hi Braden,

This problem is in locating the other sql mobile dlls while dropping the table.

This problem does not appear if you have all of the following in a single directory:

1) SQL Mobile product DLLs

2) SQL Mobile tools (such as ISQLW30.EXE in case you are using it!)

3) Customer application which uses RDA

4) Any other binary that is using SQL Mobile binaries

Please be patient while we work on the problem.

Thanks,

Laxmi Narsimha Rao ORUGANTI, MSFT, SQL Ev, Microsoft Corporation

ratio of disk traffic to network traffic

What is a normal ratio of disk traffic to network traffic on a SQL
Server? I've got 5x the disk traffic as network traffic and wondering
whether this indicates inefficiency in query design.The answer is, as is so often with computers and software, "it depends."
If you are talking about actual disk reads/writes, then...
For a well designed and configured OLTP database, the ratio between disk and
NIC bytes can be very small -smaller than 1:2 (with adequate memory and
fully cached data).
However, for OLAP (or Reporting Servers), the ratio can be very high (I've
seen over 1000:1) since a lot of output in that usage is summary data.
Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
Westwood Consulting, Inc
Most good judgment comes from experience.
Most experience comes from bad judgment.
- Anonymous
You can't help someone get up a hill without getting a little closer to the
top yourself.
- H. Norman Schwarzkopf
"DCole" <cole.consulting@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161978008.508056.73230@.m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> What is a normal ratio of disk traffic to network traffic on a SQL
> Server? I've got 5x the disk traffic as network traffic and wondering
> whether this indicates inefficiency in query design.
>|||DCole wrote:
> What is a normal ratio of disk traffic to network traffic on a SQL
> Server? I've got 5x the disk traffic as network traffic and wondering
> whether this indicates inefficiency in query design.
>
There isn't a "normal" ratio for such a thing. For instance, consider
the following OVERLY SIMPLIFIED example:
1. I submit a query to SQL - "SELECT DISTINCT TOP 1 Address1 FROM
CustomerAddress", less than 40 characters being piped in as network traffic.
2. CustomerAddress contains 50 million rows, with Address1 being the
first line of a customer address, defined as a VARCHAR(255). There are
no indexes on the CustomerAddress table.
3. To find all of the distinct Address1 values, SQL is going to scan
the Address1 table, looking at each of the 50 million rows - lots of
disk I/O.
4. The TOP 1 clause will result in only a single row being returned by
the query, containing a single VARCHAR(255) column - AT MOST 255
characters of data will be returned.
So, you can see there is very little network traffic, but a large amount
of disk I/O produced. Query efficiency, indexes, schema design, all
will have a direct effect on the amount of disk I/O that you see.
Network I/O means very little in relation to disk I/O.
Tracy McKibben
MCDBA
http://www.realsqlguy.com